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	<title>Comments on: Reference Question of the Week &#8211; 9/16/12</title>
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	<description>or, The Hitchhiker’s Guide to Fear and Loathing at a Public Library Reference Desk</description>
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		<title>By: Alyssa</title>
		<link>http://www.swissarmylibrarian.net/2012/09/22/reference-question-of-the-week-91612/#comment-17284</link>
		<dc:creator>Alyssa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2012 19:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi there - I teach art history and I&#039;m a librarian too. Brian&#039;s right: generally speaking the artist&#039;s estate, or more commonly the museum that owns the work, holds the rights to the image. Leonardo is long dead but the Louvre doesn&#039;t just give everyone permission to use the Mona Lisa&#039;s image - it&#039;s lucrative for them. If it&#039;s just one shirt it&#039;s probably OK, but if the patron were selling them it&#039;s a different story. Interestingly, if the art is changed or transformed in some meaningful way, like Duchamp&#039;s &quot;LHOOQ,&quot; that should also change the licensing since it&#039;s now a new work of art.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there &#8211; I teach art history and I&#8217;m a librarian too. Brian&#8217;s right: generally speaking the artist&#8217;s estate, or more commonly the museum that owns the work, holds the rights to the image. Leonardo is long dead but the Louvre doesn&#8217;t just give everyone permission to use the Mona Lisa&#8217;s image &#8211; it&#8217;s lucrative for them. If it&#8217;s just one shirt it&#8217;s probably OK, but if the patron were selling them it&#8217;s a different story. Interestingly, if the art is changed or transformed in some meaningful way, like Duchamp&#8217;s &#8220;LHOOQ,&#8221; that should also change the licensing since it&#8217;s now a new work of art.</p>
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		<title>By: Amelia</title>
		<link>http://www.swissarmylibrarian.net/2012/09/22/reference-question-of-the-week-91612/#comment-17283</link>
		<dc:creator>Amelia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2012 18:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve had similar conversations with patrons and I feel that as long as I&#039;ve said my peace I can leave them to make the decision for themselves.

As for CDs we have a patron who just wants to listen to the CDs in the library, we make him check them out so we have the stats even though he never leaves with them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had similar conversations with patrons and I feel that as long as I&#8217;ve said my peace I can leave them to make the decision for themselves.</p>
<p>As for CDs we have a patron who just wants to listen to the CDs in the library, we make him check them out so we have the stats even though he never leaves with them.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Herzog</title>
		<link>http://www.swissarmylibrarian.net/2012/09/22/reference-question-of-the-week-91612/#comment-17258</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Herzog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2012 02:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Richard: of course - and be sure to include covering the Wikipedia copyright note that @Michael pointed out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Richard: of course &#8211; and be sure to include covering the Wikipedia copyright note that @Michael pointed out.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Mott</title>
		<link>http://www.swissarmylibrarian.net/2012/09/22/reference-question-of-the-week-91612/#comment-17249</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Mott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2012 17:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for a great model on dealing with potential violations of intellectual property rights.

With your permission (see, I paid attention), I&#039;d like to share w/ our training mgr for possible inclusion in training new reference staff.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for a great model on dealing with potential violations of intellectual property rights.</p>
<p>With your permission (see, I paid attention), I&#8217;d like to share w/ our training mgr for possible inclusion in training new reference staff.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Herzog</title>
		<link>http://www.swissarmylibrarian.net/2012/09/22/reference-question-of-the-week-91612/#comment-17244</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Herzog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2012 12:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Michael: I do point that out to patrons, but always give a warning anyway.  Maybe too doom and gloom (especially in this case), but I want to make sure it&#039;s something people keep in mind in the future.

@sharon: we get that too - patrons bring their laptops in and then sit at a table with a stack of CDs.  At least they could check the CDs out to give us the circ stats - sheesh.

@Al: just wait until one of the invited kids&#039; parents happens to be a lawyer - that does sound risky.

@moonflowerdragon: thank you.  We do still keep those at each desk, but I don&#039;t know how often they&#039;re handed out.  For some reason though, I didn&#039;t even think of it in this case, but it would have been perfect.  But it looks like that bookmark could be reworded to include online resources too, not just library material - thanks for reminding me of this.  

As for liability, I&#039;m not expert, but my guess is that wouldn&#039;t kick in unless library staff were either encouraging or performing illegal activity.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Michael: I do point that out to patrons, but always give a warning anyway.  Maybe too doom and gloom (especially in this case), but I want to make sure it&#8217;s something people keep in mind in the future.</p>
<p>@sharon: we get that too &#8211; patrons bring their laptops in and then sit at a table with a stack of CDs.  At least they could check the CDs out to give us the circ stats &#8211; sheesh.</p>
<p>@Al: just wait until one of the invited kids&#8217; parents happens to be a lawyer &#8211; that does sound risky.</p>
<p>@moonflowerdragon: thank you.  We do still keep those at each desk, but I don&#8217;t know how often they&#8217;re handed out.  For some reason though, I didn&#8217;t even think of it in this case, but it would have been perfect.  But it looks like that bookmark could be reworded to include online resources too, not just library material &#8211; thanks for reminding me of this.  </p>
<p>As for liability, I&#8217;m not expert, but my guess is that wouldn&#8217;t kick in unless library staff were either encouraging or performing illegal activity.</p>
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		<title>By: moonflowerdragon</title>
		<link>http://www.swissarmylibrarian.net/2012/09/22/reference-question-of-the-week-91612/#comment-17238</link>
		<dc:creator>moonflowerdragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2012 06:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love the &quot;Copyright Warning bookmark&quot; you posted about - and which your &quot;See also&quot; served up with this post.  Are you still using the bookmarks?  Have you had advice regarding at which point a library would become liable under copyright law?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the &#8220;Copyright Warning bookmark&#8221; you posted about &#8211; and which your &#8220;See also&#8221; served up with this post.  Are you still using the bookmarks?  Have you had advice regarding at which point a library would become liable under copyright law?</p>
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		<title>By: Al</title>
		<link>http://www.swissarmylibrarian.net/2012/09/22/reference-question-of-the-week-91612/#comment-17236</link>
		<dc:creator>Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2012 04:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have a couple of friends who run small design businesses aimed at parents planning kids&#039; parties. The librarian in me bristles every time they post their latest &#039;Very Hungry Caterpillar&#039; or Lego themed range of invitations, loot bags or birthday cakes. I&#039;m surprised that as creators themselves they don&#039;t seem to consider that they&#039;re ripping off someone else&#039;s IP, and certainly don&#039;t seem to consider that as their businesses are all online the lawyers don&#039;t even have to leave their office to discover the infringement!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a couple of friends who run small design businesses aimed at parents planning kids&#8217; parties. The librarian in me bristles every time they post their latest &#8216;Very Hungry Caterpillar&#8217; or Lego themed range of invitations, loot bags or birthday cakes. I&#8217;m surprised that as creators themselves they don&#8217;t seem to consider that they&#8217;re ripping off someone else&#8217;s IP, and certainly don&#8217;t seem to consider that as their businesses are all online the lawyers don&#8217;t even have to leave their office to discover the infringement!</p>
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		<title>By: sharon</title>
		<link>http://www.swissarmylibrarian.net/2012/09/22/reference-question-of-the-week-91612/#comment-17227</link>
		<dc:creator>sharon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2012 16:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It probably would have taken him less time to find that someone is already selling the image on a t-shirt. But, oh well.

I had a patron who asked me repeatedly to show her how to copy our music CDs onto her Ipod. I tried to explain that I really couldn&#039;t do that because of copyright restrictions, but that her teenager could probably show her. I suggested that she could just try popping a CD into her laptop to see what happens. We also went over buying music from iTunes and transferring it to the Ipod, so I think she finally put the pieces together herself. Anyway, she did stop asking.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It probably would have taken him less time to find that someone is already selling the image on a t-shirt. But, oh well.</p>
<p>I had a patron who asked me repeatedly to show her how to copy our music CDs onto her Ipod. I tried to explain that I really couldn&#8217;t do that because of copyright restrictions, but that her teenager could probably show her. I suggested that she could just try popping a CD into her laptop to see what happens. We also went over buying music from iTunes and transferring it to the Ipod, so I think she finally put the pieces together herself. Anyway, she did stop asking.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Henry Starks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Henry Starks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2012 15:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The image appears in Wikipedia on this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Allisvanity.jpg.  Below the image is a statement saying the image is a file from the Wikipedia Commons, followed by a fairly complete and clear description of reproduction, copyright and licensing restrictions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The image appears in Wikipedia on this page: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Allisvanity.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Allisvanity.jpg</a>.  Below the image is a statement saying the image is a file from the Wikipedia Commons, followed by a fairly complete and clear description of reproduction, copyright and licensing restrictions.</p>
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